Paul however informs us (on the same page):
While Paul incorrectly accuses me of posting pictures from his Facebook (one of the pictures is from his blog, and another from Paul Martin's FB page), I did however link to multiple comments and pictures directly of his on his public Facebook which he later withdrew from public access. In other words his Facebook was set to public settings, so that all could behold his boastful ties to his homosexuality. What these pictures and comments constituted was what Paul would label: "a public act of homosexuality", some of these pictures and comments are still available.
The fact of the matter is that Paul Williams has been involved with Paul Martin for quite sometime, recently they had even been travelling together, staying at the same hotels, going to the same mosque, drinking alcohol on multiple occasions, they are a well known exclusive couple on there Facebook page and refer to one another as: "my bunny, stunning, hot" etc. What this means is we have public evidence that Paul & Paul for along while have been involved in a homosexual relationship and even declared this in pubic. What resulted from this? Paul Williams was forced to retreat his Facebook page back into the land of the anonymous. Yet Paul condemned this type of cowardice on Yahya Snow's blog when he was provoked:
To top this off, contrary to Paul's statement, multiple associates of mine (if need be) can confirm I emailed Paul and offered to take down my post, as I copied and pasted the email to them before I sent it and still have the e-mail in my sent folder.
Despite all this, Paul maintains he did not leave Islam because of his homosexuality:
Paul Williams believes homosexuality, heterosexuality and Islam are compatible as-long as these homosexual acts are done in the privacy of your own home or space. Yahya Snow agrees with Paul:
"James, Paul doesn't need to phone a world-renowned scholar to ask about what Islam teaches about homosexuality - he knows. He's not stupid."As a Muslim (and even since), Paul has repeatedly asserted he will not debate fundamentalists, in which he includes Dr. James White:
The irony is that while Paul may not debate fundamentalists, yet he will certainly join the religion of fundamentalists who kill apostates and homosexuals upon leaving the religion of fundamentalism, especially when naughty public acts of homosexuality have been displayed.
However contrary to Paul Williams, it turns out (and not for the first time), just like Sam Shamoun and David Wood were vindicated by Islamic Scholarship, James White has been vindicated by historical and biblical scholarship.
Indeed Bart Erhman, a leading Bible Scholar himself has significantly changed his view and is now confessing the earliest family members and disciples of Jesus thought of him as bearing a divine status. Erhman no longer takes the view that Jesus divinity was established between 90-96 C.E.
Lets hope that Paul Williams doesn't cling to primitive fundamentalist Islamic notions and chooses to take a ride on the Biblical scholarship train that he himself advertises and approves of on his own blog.
In summary: It just keeps getting worse for Williams, first he lost his religion, then he was caught in a homosexual relationship, then two fundamentalists David Wood and Sam Shamoun were vindicated by Islamic Scholarship, and now James White is vindicated by Bart Erhman!
Here are some closing comments for Paul Williams:
I couldn't agree more Paul!
How ironic!
By coincidence, Bart Erhman has become one of the leading opponents of Islamic Theology. Here's his view in a nutshell:
- Jesus was crucified
- Jesus family and followers saw his post-mortem appearances
- Jesus family and earliest disciples viewed him as divine (before Paul and John)
Paul do you believe Jesus was crucified?
Do you believe Jesus followers envisioned him after his death?
Do you believe Jesus family and disciples conceived of Jesus in a divine sense?
Or are you a flaming fundamentalist, Paul Williams?
I would like to thank Paul Williams who posts an interview which took place with Bart Erhman:
Just in case Paul Williams missed what Erhman said:
Paul Williams for the love of Allah, abandon your fundamentalist beliefs and follow where the evidence directs us!
Some Muslims, including my friend Nazam and Yahya (along with PW), are claiming to very offended, that such news is worthy of reporting:
UPDATE
I would like to thank Paul Williams who posts an interview which took place with Bart Erhman:
Just in case Paul Williams missed what Erhman said:
9:21-10 "But then, some of them [disciples] came to think that Jesus had been raised from the dead, and that was the beginning of the idea that Jesus himself was divine the logic was that, these disciples had visions of Jesus, they, they saw him afterwards, and they concluded that he was no longer dead, but he obviously wasn't with them anymore, he was no where to be seen, so where is he? He'd been taken up into heaven, and so the disciples came to think that he had been divinized, he'd been one of these people who was taken up and made divine. And at that point then, as soon as the disciples came to believe in the Resurrection, they came to think Jesus in some sense was God."This is theologically devastating news for Islam. Allah who raised Jesus to himself, to save Jesus from death, accidentally ended up causing a group of Jesus disciples to believe Jesus was divinized and in some sense the same as God! In other words, Allah didn't just trick the enemies of Jesus, by virtue of deceiving the enemies of Jesus, Allah also tricked the very disciples of Jesus, who thought Jesus was divine because of his death, Resurrection and ascension! Allah then causes this false ideology to succeed for 600 years as divine truth and then decides to correct his initial error.
Paul Williams for the love of Allah, abandon your fundamentalist beliefs and follow where the evidence directs us!
We done sir well done. You forgot to add that Muslims bring up "speculation and hearsay" regarding an incident in David Woods past that happened long before he became a Christian. Even though most of the Muslims have no direct evidence. Ijaz Ahmed himself before your broke the Paul Williams GayGate scandal brought up this hearsay in his interview with Sheik Awaal and worded it to sound like this just happened recently.
ReplyDeleteAnthony Rogers brought this up to Paul on the AM blog to which Paul Williams responded...
Paul Williams said...
I understand Anthony - point taken
Excellent Point Radical. Ijaz also was going around claiming Sam Shamoun hit a woman in Bible class, based off a report outside of Shamoun's facebook page, this was later clarified. Yet we present evidence from inside PW and PM's page ranging from before PW's conversion to afterwards, and we are "haters" and "obsessed". PW has made public acts of a homosexual relationship DURING his time as a Muslim, you cannot compare this to David Wood, apples and oranges.
ReplyDeleteBy the way initially I recall saying ALL arguments against Islam by Wood must be dismissed based on the grounds that David was violent
I recall Paul saying***
ReplyDeleteBoring.
ReplyDeleteAs for the q you posed to Nazam, comparing PW to Ted Haggard and Swaggart is false comparison.
If Shamoun ended up announcing he had same sex attraction I would not make such a big deal about it. Many people, some in hetero marriages, have same sex attraction. These people, inc Muslims and Christians, fight those temptations, Who are we to belittle them and their struggle? Many of these people are in fact better sexually behaved than many hetero men and women.
In Christianity, don't you not have something about those without sin cast the first stone. You never strayed?
Anyways, it's up to you how you spend, or rather waste in this case, your time.
PS If you are a Christian who believes god died for the sins of humanity:
http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/paul-williams-under-attack-by-his-foes.html
Oh one more thing, you wrote:
ReplyDeletePaul Williams believes homosexuality, heterosexuality and Islam are compatible as-long as these homosexual acts are done in the privacy of your own home or space. Yahya Snow agrees with Paul
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You misrepresented me and Paul there. I don't believe homosexual acts in public or private are allowed in Islam. I very much doubt Paul does either.
Peace.
Though PW claims his sexual tendency had never been implemented(sic) DURING his time as muslim is worthy to be questioned ( In sharia even for person with 'normal' desire it's forbidden for man&woman being left alone in certain place) , yet for me the main focus instead is precisely AFTER his apostasy.
ReplyDeleteSince PW now is openly gay and he seemingly doesn't have any religion to embrace in this present , meaning no holds barred 'to implement' his homosexual desire towards his partner (the other Paul) . Then it's so hypocritical for both PW & his muslim associates on how they are 'so in love each other' that PW till this present has never criticized the harsh&severe treatment in islamic societies upon those people like PW&his partner who "implement" their homosexual desire.
And in the muslim side it's such hypocritical of them to join bed with an openly GAY APOSTATE, two conditions that surely condemnable by death or at least severe punishment in pure Sharia based societies.
Even if we set aside the 'apostate' part , still for muslim in joining hands with a person who "implements" his homosexual desire is just the same as joining hands with "practicing" prostitute or zoophilia. If PW hadn't been so vengeful toward christianity , PW muslim associates surely would've mocked & despised Paul and if this had been situated in pure Sharia based societies they would not have had any hesitation to cut Paul' throat.
Carlos, why not think about a purely Christian state, what would they do to somebody such as a blasphemer?
ReplyDeletehttp://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/calvinist-christians-and-pakistans.html
Please give me a 21th or 20th century example please ?
ReplyDeleteKeep on dreaming dude!
What a hypocrite you are 'Snow'! in pure Sharia based countries u won't even have a slightest hesitation to cut the throat of a gay and apostate such as Paul