Does Allah have a penis? - Part 2 - A short argument by Jose Joesph

I was reading a whole pile of comments on Samuel Green's debate at AnsweringMuslims. As usual the comment section is filled with b.s., red herrings, non-sequitors, appeals to emotion, preaching, rambling, arguing etc.

Then you get to Jose Joseph's comments where we finally get some "Substance". This one comment alone is enough to silence Islam forever.
  Jose Joseph said...
Q. 39:4 Allah could take a son from his creation if he so desired. And Q 6:101 says Allah doesn't have a son because he doesn't have a companion

In light of both these quranic passages it is obvious that Allah is a being that is capable of procreating through sexual union.

In order for Allah to fulfill any future desires of having a son he must have a companion to produce that child. And it's a necessity for Allah to have a companion to accomplish that desire.

An objection could be, why assume sexual union? Even if I granted that it possibly isn't the case of sexual union between Allah and the companion.

There is still theological problems because that means Allah is a contingent being depending on a creature to produce for himself a child.

Secondly since some how, some way the companion helps Allah accomplish this desire that would make that companion co creator along side with Allah which Islam claims is shirk. Christtheway24
On your second point. Allah says in the Quran "We are the best of creators". This already presupposes co-creators.

UPDATE
Jose Joseph said...
Just adding on to my previous post, notice this Quranic passage Surah 43: 81
Say [O Prophet]: "If the Most Gracious [truly] had a son, I would be the first to worship him!"

Muhammad would worship Allah's son if he had a son. And the result of that son coming to existence was through an act of Allah and his companion being co creators which is shirk

And the child would have to be a creature since Allah's son at one point of time didn't exist. Therefore since Muhmmad would be the first to worship that child that would mean Muhmmad would be committing shirk by worship of a created being.

Ironically Muslims find it problematic for Christians to worship Jesus since he is the eternal Son of Father but find no issue that Muhmmad worship a son produced by Allah and his companion which happens to be a creature.

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