"The Tehreek-e-Taliban, which carried out perhaps the bloodiest school massacre in modern history, has called the killing consistent with what Prophet Mohammed did with his enemies 1400 years ago.
"At the time of the Bannu Qurayza massacre, Prophet Mohammed ordered only those children be killed whose pubic hairs have appeared," Umar Khurasani, spokesperson for the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, is quoted as saying by the American website, examiner.com. He said the Islamic terrorists only followed sunnat (actions of Prophet Mohammed) during wars.
Bannu Qurayza was a Jewish tribe that lived in present day Madina in Saudi Arabia. The report mentions Islamic texts that say nearly 800 men and boys and one woman of the tribe were beheaded. Khurasani is quoted as saying that those who consider the Peshawar massacre un-Islamic should refer to Sahih al-Bukhari. Muslims consider Bukhari's as one of the most authentic books on what Prophet Mohammed said and did in his lifetime." ( read more here )
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I posted this in the comment section of Pee Wee's blog I'm sure he will delete it.
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WOW on Dec 17th I posted on FB that this would be the excuse the Pakistani Taliban would use. Lets examine some of these points.
Paul wrote...
"First of all Banu Qurayzah were Kuffaar. How can the example of Kuffar be given and applied on Muslims ?"
My Response: This is untrue and even if it was true it would be irrelevant. It is untrue as to my knowledge and the knowledge of several Muslims I have asked, that the Jews are classified as kuffar. The Jews who obey the Torah are people of the book they are not "unbelievers" or Kuffar. Second even if they where kuffar it is irrelevant since the reason they where treated in such a way is because they had betrayed Mohamed and the Muslims to actual Kuffar aka Polytheists. Just like the Pakistani Military had betrayed the Pakistani Taliban to the KUFFAR USA.
You wrote..."The historical background of Banu Qurayzah is that this Jewish tribe committed treason by breaking their alliance with Muslims during the height of the battle of trench with the intention of attacking the Muslims from within the allied forces."
My Response: This is the point. If the Jews could be treated in such a way for their betrayal of Mohamed and Muslims, then why shouldn't the Pakistani Military be treated in such away for their betrayal of the Muslim Taliban to the Kuffar USA?
You wrote... "But the Battle ended and Banu Qurayzah was caught red handed."
My Response: Since the betrayal never came to fruition and the Jews where still treated in such away for their betrayal, then how much more of a betrayal is it by the Pakistani Military to the Kuffar USA, which is using drones and hell fire missiles along with other US military assets to kill the Pakistani Taliban, and their woman and children? I would say this is even a bigger betrayal.
You wrote... "Banu Qurayzah chose themselves the penalty/punishment for the treason by appointing Saad Bin Muaaz as the judge. Saad bin Muaaz decided penalty shall be according to the Jewish law (Deuteronomy 20:12-14). (All fighters to be executed while children, women and elders to be captured)."
My Response: Not only is this unbelievable but even if it is true it shows your double standards. Deut 20:12-14 has to do with how the Jews are to treat the inhabitants of a city that did not surrender to them on their way to the promised land. Not on how Muslims or anyone else should treat Jews thousands of years and a thousand or so miles away for something that a few of their leaders where accused of doing which never was done. So Deut 20:12-14 has nothing to do with punishing Jews, or betrayal, or any of the things the Jews where accused of which never took place in the first place.
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ReplyDeleteSo if Muslims can take a verse from Jewish scripture out of its context, ignoring the plane meaning of the text and applying it in a way that the author had not intended. Then why can't Muslims use this story and take it out of its historical context, ignore the plane meaning of the text and apply it in a way that the author never intended?
To quote you again Paul "How can the example of Kuffar be given and applied on Muslims ?" I ask you a question "How can a verse about how the Jews are to make war against their enemies on their way to the promised land, be applied to Jews living over a thousand years later, and a thousand miles away for something they are alleged to have done that they never did?
You wrote..."Even though the Muslims were the strongest of the allies it was never the decision of Muslims to punish them in this way. In fact as mentioned above the Muslims had actually forgiven them earlier for their mischief and conspiracy against the Muslims in Madinah".
My Response: This is absurd for a number of reasons. First lets assume that it was not the Muslims who pronounced judgment. The fact that they where the strongest, the fact that Mohamed was a claimed prophet, the fact that this went against what you claim Islam is against, to quote you again..."The Prophet of Islam ﷺ has forbidden clearly the killing of religious leaders, children, women, elders, business men, farmers and any non combatant adult." Then why didn't Mohamed the claimed prophet say "NO this is to harsh Allah and his messenger forbid it"? Second assuming that it was not Mohamed or the Muslms who passed this judgment it was still Mohamed and the Muslims who carried out the punishment of beheading 600 to 900 Jewish males. Some of them their only crime was having pubic hair. Even though this went against what you claim Mohamed was against.
So Paul Williams I will leave you with my original FB post, something that turned out to be prophetic. To bad Mohamed wasn't as great a prophet as I am.
Apparently the Jihadi that attacked the school in Pakistan where under orders to only kill students from 9 years and up. The reason for the attack on the school is because the Muslims of Pakistan in collusion with the USA have been killing the children of the Muslims of the Taliban.
Lets put this in historical context. Between 600 to 900 male Jews who had reached the age of puberty, where beheaded by Mohamed and his merry band of followers. The reason is because some Jews had allegedly betrayed Mohamed to the Pagans in a plot that never came to fruition.
The Muslims of Pakistan are betraying the Muslims of the Taliban to the hell fire missiles of the pagans of the USA. The Muslims of the Taliban kill those who have reached puberty from the children of the Pakistani Muslims in the military who have betrayed them to the Kuffar.
So we can see that what the Muslims of the Pakistani Taliban have done to the Muslims of Pakistan is justified under the Sunnah of Mohamed.