Three New Arguments for Muslims

Below I reference some good materials showing the real state of the preservation of the Quran. I am thinking of doing a documentary or a series of videos on this over all issue at some point, I mentioned this last year.

In this post I would like to copy three of my own arguments (that are related to the topic at hand) I seem to have innovated when meditating and debating on this issue. I have only extracted my own words and haven't reformulated these arguments, so you will have to be familiar with the issues to understand.

Argument 1

According to the Quran:

15:9 “Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian.”

Now this is a passage in the very Quran itself. Presumably when it says it will protect itself it is not referring to one harf of itself, rather it’s complete self.

If it is referring to itself in the sense of the Quran as it stand s in heaven, then it is only referring to the heavenly Quran being protected, contradicting the Muslim view that the Quran they possess on earth is protected by Allah.

This also creates a divide; there is one Quran in heaven, and one Quran on earth. And only one is being protected.

However if we say that the verse “15:9” is referring to a singular harf then which harf is it referring to? And how we do know which one it means? Then of course this invokes the whole task of splitting the passages of the Quran to identify whether it’s referring to All of itself (all seven Ahruf) or parts of itself (one harf or another), this makes a shambles out of the Quran.

You have three choices. When God says he will protect the Quran does he mean 1) The tablet in heaven 2) The Quran as an attribute of God 3) The Quran revealed on earth? 4) or All three of them? And when you figured that out tell me… if he does mean he preserves the Quran revealed on earth, what Quran does he mean, does he mean, an earthly Quran that contains 1) All seven Ahruf 2) One Harf 3) Some of every Ahruf 4) Some parts of some Ahruf (1 ,2 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7)? Also let me know how many Qurans there are.

Argument 2

Thank you for the red herring. Since the point wasn’t that the tablet contained a full recording, rather that the tablet contains the Quran in all seven modes, the full Quran. But I don’t even need to use the example of the tablet. The clear unequivocal truth is that according to Islam the Quran is eternal, and it is not eternal in the sense that it was part of God’s foreknowledge, rather it is the literal kalema(word and speech) of God.

The eternal Quran consists of seven Ahruf which means the full Quran is only and can only be the Quran that has all seven Ahruf. This Quran was the very same Quran revealed by Gabriel to Mohammed, the very Quran that Uthman destroyed.

Now apart from the uninspired Uthman acting in treason (notice if a kufr destroyed a Quran it wouldn’t be acceptable), you also have to contend with the fact that Uthman destroyed the Eternal Speech of God. How is it possible an unchanging, eternal word of God can be abrogated and burnt by Uthman?

I’ll leave that one for your scholars. Since they can’t use the old canard “We gave the Jews the responsibility”, no they must account for the fact that the eternal word of God the Quran itself that cannot be changed, was actually destroyed by a Muslim.

Argument 3

Even if there were that would be an impossible and logically fallacious claim to make. For several reasons. First, the ahruf cannot be *fully* the Quran to the exclusion of the other Ahruf. If you say the Ahruf is *the full and complete Quran* then you have conceded the other ahruf are not part of that fullness that constitutes the Quran. If you say "one ahruf is the fully what compromises the Quran" you leave out to the exclusion all the other ahruf.

Just like if you were to say "the box is fully empty" then there can be nothing else in that box. Unless of course you admit there is "another fully empty box" which means there is two boxes. In your case if you say the first harf is the full Quran, and the second harf is the full Quran, and so forth, then you have a total of seven Qur'ans.

The second and most obvious reason is that the full Quran is in the eternal tablet in heaven. All of the seven ahruf constitute this Quran, this is the full and identical word of God. Meaning lets say if one harf was missing from this tablet, then this could no longer be the Quran, similarly if one harf was missing on the heavenly "revealed" Quran on earth, it could no longer be the full Quran.
You cannot say “each harf is fully the Quran” without implying seven Qurans. In fact let me illustrate this reasoning for you. According to Muslim criticisms of the Trinity, if the Father is fully God, and the Son is fully God and the Holy Spirit is fully God, then there are THREE DISTINCT GODS. Likewise if each harf is fully the Quran, then there are SEVEN DISTINCT QURANS.