"Tommy from EDL is Racist." - Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and it's true!

I think this audience must have been pet trained at a now intellectually defunct, financially bankrupt home made school sponsored by the highly irrational inconsistent ex-MDI president and member Paul Williams who is noterious for using similar tactics such as shouting down his opponents and making seeming irrelevant red herrings, appeals to authority etc.

"RACIST, RACIST, RACIST!", is what passes off as News and Views these days.

The audience would need to define the specific way they define racism, and show definitive proof that Tommy has made comments that match this definition, all of which not even one parcipant even attempts to do save the moderator (who at least tried to provide evidence but no defintiion).

Tommy asks "where is your substance?" Precisely!

The only attempt to even deal with any substance was by the man from the other protest-group. At least he tries to engage Tommy about the protests rationally.

The brown lady and white lady with glasses at the front made no arguments, just appeal to emotion, the kid at the back made an ad-hom about "being out of touch with reality" and a Muslimah complained about being shunned on a bus seat, (what on?). And three other people talked about what causes racism without offering any evidence for their assertions about causation or offering any conclusive proof that Tommy is racist! Not even a single panelist sensationalist or audience participant could show how Tommy was a bigot or racist.

Tommy understandably was frustrated, and maybe a little nervous being the only person defending his position.

I was disappointed with Tommy on one note, he blames this all on salafi extremists. The problem is not one particular version of Islam. Saudi Arabians and Afghans are not the only extreme version of Islam, try taking a look at the Islamic world. Islamic jurisprudence is the problem.

There is no version of Islam that says "do not kill apostates", "do not behead witches", if any version of Islam that is inconsistent with Islamic values exists, it is not Islam. Simple really, isn't it?

 

Islam or Islams?

I'm not saying there is no room for differences of opinion in Islam. I am saying Religion without religious guidance and instruction (aka Sharia Law in the case of Islam) is an oxymoron.

Further more if there really is multiple Islams, then take a vigorous illuminating endeavor throughout all the extreme elements that bond and unite them (lack of human rights) and object to that as "Islamic violations".

Tommy is a good man and am I am very impressed, that such an ordinary working bloke has learned and developed his knowledge of politics and Islam. I encourage this lad to keep growing and perpetually continue to study. Never give up Tommy, you are born to be great.